![]() ![]() That approach can work, the famous example in literature is the Thomas Covenant series, where the protagonist basically gets isekai'd and chosen one'd but rejects the call for most of the first trilogy due to not believing it is real and fear that acceptance of his newfound health will damage his leprosy survival techniques. At least that's how it seems to me as someone who's only seen bits and bobs of each as well as audience reactions. And that is the subtext I felt in the snippets of dialogue I saw from Forspoken: "Haha, ya, we know this is stupid and silly." If you're the audience for an Isekai that takes itself seriously, that's gotta leave you at least confused: Wait, what - I thought I was here for the fantasy, not to laugh at it?Īnd that's why Hi-Fi Rush probably works, and Forspoken doesn't: Rush has audience and writers share a perspective (they're laughing with each other), while the audience perspective and the writing perspective in Forspoken seem adversarial (one seems to smirk down at the other). It wasn't that article, but thank you for linking it! It was an interesting read, especially because it picked up on my own experiences as a writer in a gaming space (I wrote for a magazine, though, not a game): I found not few of the writers there to have disdain, and a few even disgust, for the material they write about. If you took individual clips from each film they might seem identical, but when looking at the movies as a whole they effected the overall experience differently. However, after the serious trailers for Age of Ultron, many people felt that the focus on comedy or snarky one-liners in the resulting film detracted from it. Using Marvel movies as an example, I've heard very few complaints about cheesy dialogue or silliness in Guardians of the Galaxy because that fits the tone that people were expecting. People were primed for a certain tone when they looked at each game and one fit that tone while the other arguably didn't. Its "Marvel" style dialogue can therefore seem to clash with the other elements of the game. Forespoken has a more muted, realistic style and seems to be a more serious, dark, fantasy epic of a title. It seems to be going for light, wacky vibes. Hi-Fi Rush is a cartoony, comic book styled, rhythm game. The artstyle, general presentation, game genre, plot, and thematic focus of the two games all gives players a perception of what type of tone is expected and welcomed. I think it's a combination of many things. Quick edit because I'm getting a lot of hate mail: I don't actually think the majority of people dislike Forspoken for having a minority character, However after seeing an amount of discussion on it I wanted to preemptively bring it up just so the people that do think that wouldn't think I'm ignoring the possibility I thought people could be grown-ups for discussion and just say "I don't think so" or "yeah" The elephant in the room: Do you feel there is another "angle" at play here? (Racial, misogynistic, etc)ĭoes the artstyle play any role in how dialogue is interpreted? (Not a joke question as I keep seeing this get brought up, so here we are). What makes the cheesy dialogue work in HiFi Rush vs Forspoken?Īre we even in agreement here that both games contain cheesy dialogue? You can take out of context lines from Hi-Fi Rush and Forespoken and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.Īfter sitting on this for a few days myself, I honestly think this is worth a discussion. I really didn't understand why people were dunking on Forespoken for things that people like Hi-Fi Rush for, the jokes the semi constant dialogue the Marvel smarm. Really the title, I actually enjoy both games. r/CoOpGaming - A community for co-op gaming r/xboxone - Xbox-specific subreddit for general Xbox news and discussion r/playstation, /r/PS4 & /r/PS5 - PlayStation-specific subreddits for general PlayStation news and discussion r/pcgaming - PC gaming-specific subreddit for general PC gaming news, discussion and gaming tech support r/nintendo - Nintendo-specific subreddit for general Nintendo news and discussion r/shouldibuythisgame - Find out what's worth getting. r/gamingsuggestions - Go here to help you find your next game to play r/gaming4gamers - Discussion, bar the Hivemind Top-level comments must be at least 100 characters in length.Accounts must be at least one month old.External Links must follow these guidelines No topics that belong in other subreddits This subreddit shouldn't be used for advice of any kind. ![]() ![]() Use sufficient detail and examples from multiple sources.Clearly define the purpose of your post.Engage in good faith with the points the person you're replying to is making.No discrimination or “isms” of any kind (racism, sexism, etc).Discuss GamingĪll discussion must be about gaming 2. ![]()
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